A couple of people have told me turtles are nasty. I beg to differ with them. Now I ask you do my turtles look nasty? Look how pretty their shells are. They must have just had their morning bath. I think they might even put deodorant under their arms, all four of them. I'm asking would you like white bread, wheat bread, or cat food. The turtle is saying either or all of the above. Excuse the large knees, its the angle. My knees are rather large though. Once when my grandson was young he was walking around the carpet on his knees. Of course I had to tell him I wonder if I can do that and he said Grandma with those knees you shouldn't have any problem.